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                <description><![CDATA[<p>Obama Conspiracy Theories blog has this comment on the CNN LTC Lakin interview: Paul Jensen, tried to imply things that were false by clever irrelevancies and innuendo, but he told one outright whopper: In the state of Hawaii there’s a statute that allows anyone born outside the state of Hawaii, including in a foreign country,&hellip;</p>
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<p>Obama Conspiracy Theories blog has this comment on the CNN LTC Lakin interview:</p>


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Paul Jensen, tried to imply things that were false by clever irrelevancies and innuendo, but he told one outright whopper:

  
In the state of Hawaii there’s a statute that allows anyone born outside the state of Hawaii, including in a foreign country, to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate, at any age, by going back and filling out a form.

  
Jensen then cited HRS § 338-17.8 Certificates for children born out of State.

 
That law does not allow “anyone” to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate. It is limited to applicants who can prove to the director that “the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.” . . .  He said “anyone” but of the billions of  people in the world, it only applies to a handful of Hawaii residents who give birth to children out of state. . . . 

 
The law HRS 338-17.8 was not passed until 1982. President Obama’s birth registration was filed August 8, 1961. A registration could not have been filed in 1961 under this (or any) Hawaiian statute.

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                <title><![CDATA[Co-conspirator reminder]]></title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>With a seasonal title, Prof. Colin Miller reminds us of a particular caution when seeking to admit statements of a co-conspirator – the statements have to be made before the crime is committed. There should be the same impact in a court-martial prosecution under the UCMJ. Prof. Colin Miller, Later On, We’ll Conspire: Court Of&hellip;</p>
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<p>With a seasonal title, Prof. Colin Miller reminds us of a particular caution when seeking to admit statements of a co-conspirator – the statements have to be made before the crime is committed.  There should be the same impact in a court-martial prosecution under the UCMJ.</p>


<p>Prof. Colin Miller, <a href="https://lawprofessors.typepad.com/evidenceprof/2009/12/like-itsfederal-counterpartindiana-rule-of-evidence-801d2eprovides-thata-statement-is-not-hearsay-ifthe-stateme.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Later On, We’ll Conspire: Court Of Appeals Of Indiana Notes That Statements After A Crime Has Been Perpetrated Cannot Be Co-Conspirator Admissions</a>.</p>


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As the text of this Rule [Indiana/Fed./Mil. R. Evid. 801(d)(2)(E)] makes clear, the Rule only covers statements made during the course of (and in furtherance of) a conspiracy and does not cover statements made after the conspiracy has been effected and the crime has been perpetrated. 

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